11/2/09

Help the Mongrel put together a 2012 top 50!

* Still a draft, rankings on there are not final I haven't researched a handful of them and have more notes to go through from July but I thought I'd update the draft in case it inspired more commtents.*

OK, I think the more high school and AAU basketball I see the less I think of the wisdom of doing lists for freshmen and sophomores, its so hard to be consistent with balancing potential and current ability. So I need your help! I know who the best prospects I've seen are, and I've seen the majority of the high profile ones, many in July for the first time though. So give me your two cents in the comments section or email the Good Mongrel using the side bar. I'll research any player you advocate and if I find any support that the kid is actually close to what you say I'll get him on there somewhere.

Here is a rough start, I did this with the juniors and seniors in OH/IN/IL/MI/KY and the final list turned out a little different than where we started and I'm keeping this list pretty interactive so help me out!

Likely top 10 candidates:
1. Emanual Ochenje (6'9 IL #52 nationally per ESPN, this 6'9 force is already muscular, long, and moves very well, still a little raw but gets it done on both sides of the ball even at this stage),
2. Devontes Smith-Rivera (6'3 North Central HS IN #12 nationally per ESPN this bull of a combo guard is groing more and more into a point, has sweet looking shot and amazing balance in trafic, looked great at point in Adidas Nations this summer and keeps getting better),
3. Adolphus Washington (6'8 OH was dominant inside force for All-Ohio Purple who won AAU nationals in the age group again),
4. Elijah Macon (6'8 Marian-Franklin HS OH #10 nationally per ESPN West Virginia commit came up huge against Nike Team Florida in Orlando in a championship victory for All-Ohio Red with 16 points.),
5. Ken Kaminski (6'7 Medina HS OH has a sweet stroke and can play in the paint, plus has wonderful leaping ability and can put the ball on the floor),
6. Ron Patterson (Broadripple IN 6'3 is a long armed two guard who can shoot the three and is developing more of a handle but already one of the best defenders in his class and can score from anywhere on the court best trait is competitiveness has offers from OSU, Tenn, IU, PU, UI, Cincinnati, Xavier),
7. TJ Bell (6'8 Bloomington South IN #31 nationally per ESPN has amazing athleticism and great reach, still a little gangly but very good in the paint, is getting some serious attention at wide receiver this year good speed),
8. AJ Hammons (6'11 Carmel IN #30 nationally per ESPN is still a work in progress on offense, has soft hands and great potential on offense but not aggressive, however on defense he shuts people down and goes after the ball, when his light goes on he's a top ten player nationally),
9. Jaylen Beckham (6'1 pg Lex Catholic KY #1 player in 2012 in KY per Demling he is stunningly quick and can get to the basket at will, very good court vision needs to tighten the whole package a little and could wind up best prospect from Kentucky in several years),

Shaping up next group order still subject to research and comments:
10. Garry Harris (6'3 combo guard Hamilton SE jumped around this summer on different AAU teams, he has big time bounce and command of the game),
11. Dejuan Marrero (#50 nationally per ESPN has unmatched motor, is king of the offensive glass and most of his game revolves around cleaning up after others at this point but 6'6 forward is developing some wing skills),
12. Keith Carter (pg from Proviso East is arguably the class of the special group of sophomore points in Ill was a standout on Team NLP at the NY2LA Shootout along with teammate Aaron Simpson, they drew a crowd of Big Ten coaches to watch)
13. Raphael Davis (6'5 Ft Wayne star and PU commit is a pure scorer #59 nationally per ESPN),
14. Jeremy Hollowell (6'6 Lawrence Central smooth shooter has good handle, long arms, plays great defense has offers from several high majors),
15. Jermaine Morgan (6'8 Whitney Young #36 nationally per ESPN, #6 in class per Chicagohoops for IL),
16. Austin Burgett (6'8 Avon HS has three point range, nifty post moves and handles like a wing has several good offers already),
17. Yogi Ferrel (5'8 point has really long arms for his size wide-eyed Mike Singletary type of intensity good defender and #78 nationally per ESPN has offers from Purdue, Ohio State, Butler),
18. Jordan Hare (#48 nationally per ESPN is arguably the best prospect in Michigan in his class and one to watch this year),
19. Jay Simpson (Purdue commitment and Illinois star is #98 nationally per ESPN),
20. Matt Costello (6'8 center is best suited as a perimiter shooter for now, growing into rest of his game #63 nationally per ESPN),
21. Kyle Molock (PU commitment 6'1 Dublin-Coffman HS OH #65 nationally per ESPN),
22. Bobo Drummond (5'11 pg Peoria HS has big time potential is on the radar of several Big Ten programs),
23. Edward Seay (6'8 Merillville is long and athletic at 6'7 should have a huge year),
24. Dylan Kaufman (6'4 Hiland HS from Akron is a fine shooter and good all around player from Akron who has been scouted by coaches from Ohio State, Indiana, North Carolina, and others but already has some good offers including Miami.
25. Malcolm Hill-Brey (pg Mt Carmel IL),
26. Kellon Thomas (5'9 point is a very good scorer with a smooth outside shot being recruited by Butler, Indiana, and others plays for Southport HS, Indianapolis),
27. Aaron Simpson (N Chicago Community pg Chicagohoops #3 in IL for 2012 he played along with Keith Carter for Team NLP),
28. Kellen Dunham (6'4 shooter from Pendleton Heights who I've had a couple of emails about, here is a quote from comments section on him "Langkabel and Dunham are both highly skilled, solid players. Dunham can shoot from anywhere ...that only adds to his game."),
29. Tameron Manning (6'3 Scott Co, KY's #3 player in 2012 per Demling),
30. Delvon Rencher (6'5 Homewood-Flossmoor IL Chicagohoops #5 in class for IL)
31. Cameron Harvey (#81 nationally per ESPN),
32. Malik London (#99 nationally per ESPN),
33. Desmond Dorsey (6'0 Jeffersontown KY, Demling #2 in KY for 2012),
34. Derrick Randolph (5'8 pg Whitney Young Chicagohoops #7 in 2012 for IL),
35. Malik London (6'8 Chillicothe HS OH),
36. Glenn Robinson Jr,
37. Lamar Walker (6'9 MI Community HS),
38. Jelani Neeley (6'0 pg Simeon IL Chicagohoops #8 in 2012 for IL),
39. Ray Lee (pg/sg Detroit),
40. Jordan Potts (5'10 OH Northland HS),
41. Jerad Drew (6'5 Lawrence Central wing has outstanding reach and athleticism, can shoot and defend),
42. Myles Hamilton (pg St Edwards OH),
43. Sean Sheldon (Bankhoops #2 center in Michigan 6'8 Traverse City St Francis)
44. DJ Ballantine is a point from ,IN who had a big performance at the Michigan Elite Camp this summer.
45. Rhett Smith (6'5 wf Sullivan IN is tough, has range and plays with some strength),
46. Desmond Ridenour from comments.. "6'0 PG on the same (Cleveland)Benedictine team as Cameron Wright(your 2010 #10). With schools such as Florida, Penn State, Wisconsin, Michigan State coming to the open gyms to see this crafty yet explosive young player he is definitely one to watch for.",
47. Orlando Berry Jr (undersized point runs the show for dominant All-Ohio Purple AAU program)
48. Jordan Foster (5'11 Oak Park-River Forrest IL comments from anonymous include him in the "Magnificent 7" points from Ill in this class and suggest he's effective on both sides of the ball),
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Possible top 50 candidates: RJ Hunter (5'10 pg IN), Michael Ramey (6'4 IN), Nick Osbourne (6'7 Muncie Central), Ronnie Johnson (6'1 Indianapolis NC), Logan Irwin (5'8 Whitko HS), Jalen Robinson (Northland HS 6'6), Chris Harrison-Docks (5'11 Okemos HS), Akeem Springs (6'3 IL Waukeegan), Nate Brooks (6'5 Whitney Young), Chris Heaney (6'3 IL Lincoln Park), Deontra Brown (6'1 Plainfield HS IL), Jordan Smith (6'3 Whitney Young), Michael Mache (6'5 Glenbard IL), Matthew Mache (6'5 Glenbard IL), Marcellus Barksdale (5'10 KY), Charles Harris (6'3 Lake Forrest #9 player in IL in 2012 per Chicagohoops), Dylan Lankabel, Jason Kilongi is a wonderful sleeper from Bishop Leurs in Ft Wayne who looked great for Spiece Gym Rats Davis., Max Clemons (TSI) , Jeff "Kiki" Stokes (Peoria Manual pg and Illinois Wolves 2012), Jacoby Roddy (6'5 swingman Peoria Manual and Illinois Wolves 2012), Andrew Jordan (6'5 small forward Illinois Wolves 2012), Conner Boehm is 6'6 New Trier forward #10 on Chicagohoops list in this class, Patrick Ingram (sg Indianapolis was outsanding for the Eric Gordon 2012 all-stars), Trashaun Carroll is a 6'5 forward from Proviso East who plays strong,

Who am I leaving out? Let me know, I'll give it a few days to finish the list and make this one more interactive than even the 2011 list was. The photo above shows 2010 Indiana star Garrett Ross attacking Yogi Farrell, Marques Teague, Dejuan Marrero, and Raphael Davis.

18 comments:

  1. I have two names Kellen dunham and Dylan Langkabel

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  2. Ray Lee - 6'2" PG - Detroit Cass Tech

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  3. Mongrel here - I haven't gone through my own July notes so I'll be adding some names today probably. Good call on Lee and Lankabel. Dunham is the shooter for Pendleton Heights, I haven't gotten to see him yet but have heard he's got plenty of high major interest so I'll put him in the mix. Let me know more about him if you watch him play much.

    The ESPN rankings I used in there aren't official rankings by the way. If you go to Scoutsinc.com they have a "prospects" link, click that then click 2012. The kids will be alphabetical but if you click "grade" you get them in the order espn has them graded. I use them instead of Scout and Rivals because its free and also because they have many more national scouts that contribute evaluations, usually guys with coaching experience. They don't have a great rep with some people because of the past, but last couple of years they get more eyes on more kids and they leave kids unranked they don't personally evaluate (with grades of 40). I love Rivals and Scout, but ESPN is free, more transparent about the truth of when they see kids, and better represented in different areas of the country. I love Evan Daniels and Dave Telep and all those guys and Rivals does a great job, but scoutsinc gets knocked around unfarily imo.

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  4. Langkabel and Dunham are both highly skilled, solid players. Dunham can shoot from anywhere ...that only adds to his game.

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  5. Desmond Ridenour 6'0 PG on the same (Cleveland)Benedictine team as Cameron Wright(your 2010 #10). With schools such as Florida, Penn State, Wisconsin, Michigan State coming to the open gyms to see this crafty yet explosive young player he is definitely one to watch for.

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  6. These are the Illinois top point Guards and I call them the Magnificent Seven.


    1. Keith Carter
    2. Malcolm Hill-bey
    3. Janleni Neely
    4. Jordan Foster
    5. Aaron Simpson
    6. Derrick Randolph
    7. Antonio Drummond

    I did not see Keith Carter name at all and Jordan Foster has the most balance attack defensively and Offensively. These two is a must top 50.

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  7. wow, Carter is a glaring omission, i've covered his exploits in this blog a few times

    haven't seen foster so glad for the input there too

    i'm still in the middle of going through my own notes from july, made it through the old emails though i'll get carter put in somewhere up there, also think i have a couple of other kids too low right now (raphael davis for example) will keep looking for input before i unleash the final list thanks again

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  8. Desmond Ridenour from Benedictine in Cleveland played on the same AAU team (OBC) as Kyle Molock(Purdue) was a heckuva back court that gave the oposition fits.He's more of a PG than Kyle was though. he's a gamer. smooth smooth stroke. penetrates almost effortlessly because you never know what he's gonna do.

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  9. Mongrel here - Do you think Ridenour is as good a college prospect as Molock? How do they fit in?

    Is Ridenour as good a prospect as Jackson was at that age?

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  10. You have Kaminski as #5. The scary thing is at the end of the day #5 may be too low.

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  11. What is some the top AAU Teams in the Midwest or list the up and coming new teams for the 15u,16u and 17u. For Indiana,Michigan and Illinois.

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  12. I saw OBC play many times this summer, Ridenour is a nice player and has the potential to be very good, but Kyle Molock was a pg who could do it all and seemed to take over games.

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  13. Some of the top teams around are Indiana Elite (Indiana) , NLP (Illinois), All-Ohio Red (Ohio), Rising Stars (Illinois), Speice Indy Heat (Indiana), Speice Indy Stars (Indiana). All from what I've seen.

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  14. Anyone ever heard of Roo Standeford, a junior at Southwestern High School in Shelbyville, IN? He's helped the Spartans beat Dylan Langkabel and the Morristown Jackets twice this year. I also understand that he's second in scoring in the county. He's one to watch! I'd like to see some game tapes . . .

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  15. terry rozier 5'10 pg shaker heights and luke heben 6'1 pg from benedictine (ohio)...rozier best scoring pg i've seen around north east ohio, luke is the true pg ive seen that knows the game and is a pass first pg...

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  16. terry rozier 5'10 pg shaker heights and luke heben 6'1 pg from benedictine (ohio)...rozier best scoring pg i've seen around north east ohio, luke is the best true pg ive seen in north east ohio that knows the game and is a pass first pg... both in class of 2012

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  17. i heard of luke heben and terry rozier...heard they were 2 best point guards in the cleveland area, seen rozier play-he is very creative and crafty with a good step back move..heben-is a true point guard a "steve nash" type who is very smart on the court and cant loose the ball.. seen ridenour play in high school, he was the back up point guard for heben on benedictine until heben got hurt

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  18. PEOPLE, PEOPLE YOU HAVE TY SHERMAN and DELVON RENCHER RANKED IN THIS MOCK HYPE, THERE NOT EVEN the BEST COLEGE PROSPECT of 2012 ON THEIR OWN TEAM.. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT TIM WILLIAMS is RANKED AHEAD of THOSE 2 FOR SURE, and DEPENDING ON WHICH RECRUITING LINE YOU FOLLOW, RANKED AHEAD of JERMAINE MORGAN, and AUSTIN ANGEL, CAL, NEVADA - RENO, WISC, MARQUETTE, K -STATE, OKLA ST.. ARE LOOKING QUITE HARD.. ALSO a TOP QB. PROSPECT in FOOTBALL ( PURDUE ) for STARTERS.. MAKES ME WONDER WHAT YOU PEOPLE BE WATCHING.. WOW

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